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If a creature with persist that has +1/+1 counters on it receives enough -1/-1 counters to cause it to be destroyed by lethal damage or put into its owner's graveyard for having 0 or less toughness, persist won't trigger and the card won't return to the battlefield
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That felt appropriate in that list however due to the nature of discard effects suffering from poor scaling and diminishing returns after a point considering the whole card is much more relevant to them
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For Final Fantasy, they might have done it again
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Always check the specific card and the format rules
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